Question: What is simplicity? Does it imply seeing very clearly the essentials and discarding everything else?
问题:什么是简单? 它是否意味着非常清楚地看到本质并丢弃其他一切?
Krishnamurti: Let us see what simplicity is not. Don't say - "That is negation" or "Tell us something positive". That is immature, thoughtless reaction. Those people who offer you the `positive' are exploiters; they have something to give you which you want and through which they exploit you.
克里希那穆提:让我们看看简单不是什么。 不要说 —— “那是消极” 或者“告诉我们一些积极的”。 那是不成熟的、轻率的反应。 那些给你“积极”的人是剥削者; 他们拥有某个你想要的东西,并通过它来剥削你。
We are doing nothing of that kind. We are trying to find out the truth of simplicity. Therefore you must discard, put ideas behind and observe anew.
我们没有做这种事情。 我们正试图找出简单的真实含义。 因此,你必须抛弃,把想法抛在脑后,重新观察。
The man who has much is afraid of revolution, inwardly and outwardly. Let us find out what is not simplicity. A complicated mind is not simple, is it? A clever mind is not simple; a mind that has an end in view for which it is working, a reward, a fear, is not a simple mind, is it?
拥有很多东西的人害怕革命,无论是内在的还是外在的。 让我们找出什么是不简单的。 复杂的头脑是不简单的,不是吗? 聪明的头脑是不简单的; 一个有目的的头脑,抱有为之而奋斗的某个愿景,某个奖励,某种恐惧,不是一个简单的头脑,它是吗?
A mind that is burdened with knowledge is not a simple mind; a mind that is crippled with beliefs is not a simple mind, is it? A mind that has identified itself with something greater and is striving to keep that identity, is not a simple mind, is it? We think it is simple to have only one or two loincloths, we want the outward show of simplicity and we are easily deceived by that. That is why the man who is very rich worships the man who has renounced.
背负着知识的头脑不是简单的头脑; 一个被信仰弄残的头脑不是一个简单的头脑,是吗? 一个与某种更伟大的事物相认同,并努力保持这种地位的头脑,不是一个简单的头脑,它是吗? 我们认为只有一两块缠腰布就是简单, 我们想要简单的外在表现,我们很容易被它欺骗。 那就是为什么非常富有的人崇拜已经放弃的人。
What is simplicity? Can simplicity be the discarding of non-essentials and the pursuing of essentials - which means a process of choice? Does it not mean choice - choosing essentials and discarding non-essentials? What is this process of choosing? What is the entity that chooses?
什么是简单? 简单难道就是抛弃非本质的,而去追求本质吗 —— 这意味着一个选择的过程? 它不是意味着选择吗 —— 选择必需品和丢弃非必需品吗? 这个选择过程是什么? 选择的实体是什么?
Mind, is it not? It does not matter what you call it. You say, `I will choose this, which is the essential'. How do you know what is the essential?
头脑,不是吗? 你怎么称呼它并不重要。 你说,'我会选择这个,这是本质'。 你怎么知道什么是本质?
Either you have a pattern of what other people have said or your own experience says that something is the essential. Can you rely on your experience? When you choose, your choice is based on desire, is it not? What you call `the essential' is that which gives you satisfaction. So you are back again in the same process, are you not? Can a confused mind choose? If it does, the choice must also be confused.
要么你对别人说的话有一个模式,要么你自己的体验表明某个东西是必不可少的。 你能依靠你的体验吗?当你选择时,你的选择是基于欲望,它不是吗? 你所谓的“本质”是给你满足感的东西。 所以你又回到了同样的过程中,不是吗? 一个困惑的头脑能做选择吗? 如果它这样做,这个选择也必定是糊涂。
Therefore the choice between the essential and the non-essential is not simplicity. It is a conflict. A mind in conflict, in confusion, can never be simple. When you discard, when you really observe and see all these false things, the tricks of the mind, when you look at it and are aware of it, then you will know for yourself what simplicity is.
因此,在本质和非本质之间做选择,是不简单的。 它是一场冲突。 一个处于冲突、混乱中的头脑,永远不可能是简单的。 当你丢弃时,当你真正在观察时 看到所有这些错误的东西,头脑的这些诡计, 当你看到它并意识到它时,你就会亲自知道什么是简单。
A mind which is bound by belief is never a simple mind. A mind that is crippled with knowledge is not simple. A mind that is distracted by God, by women, by music, is not a simple mind. A mind caught in the routine of the office, of rituals, of prayers, such a mind is not simple.
一个被信仰束缚的头脑从来都不是一个简单的头脑。 一个被知识弄得残缺的头脑是不简单的。 一个被上帝、女人、音乐分散注意力的头脑,不是一个简单的头脑。 一个陷入办公室、仪式、祈祷的例行公事中的头脑,这样的头脑是不简单的。
Simplicity is action, without idea. But that is a very rare thing; that means creativeness. So long as there is not creation, we are centres of mischief, misery and destruction. Simplicity is not a thing which you can pursue and experience.
简单是行动,没有想法。 但那是一件非常稀罕的东西;那意味着创造。 只要没有创造,我们就是灾难、痛苦和毁灭的中心。 简单不是你可以追求和体验的东西。
Simplicity comes, as a flower opens at the right moment, when each one understands the whole process of existence and relationship. Because we have never thought about it, observed it, we are not aware of it; we value all the outer forms of few possessions but those are not simplicity.
当每个人都理解存在和关系的整个过程时, 简单走来,如同一朵花在适当的时候绽放。 因为我们从未想过它,观察过它,我们没有意识到它; 我们看重外在的形式 —— 拥有很少的财物,但这些都是不简单的。
Simplicity is not to be found; it does not lie as a choice between the essential and the non-essential. It comes into being only when the self is not; when the mind is not caught in speculations, conclusions, beliefs, ideations. Such a free mind only can find truth. Such a mind alone can receive that which is immeasurable, which is unnameable; and that is simplicity.
简单是找不到的; 它不是在本质和非本质之间做选择题。 只有当自我不在时,它才会出现; 当头脑没有陷入猜测、结论、信仰、想法时。 这种自由的头脑才能找到真理。 只有这样的头脑才能接受不可估量的东西,那不可命名的;那就是简单。