THE FIRST AND LAST FREEDOM 第一和最后的自由

Q36ON THE MEANING OF LIFE 关于生命的意义

Question: We live but we do not know why. To so many of us, life seems to have no meaning. Can you tell us the meaning and purpose of our living?

问题:我们活着,但我们不知道为什么。 对我们许多人来说,生命似乎没有意义。 你能告诉我们我们生活的意义和目的吗?

Krishnamurti: Now why do you ask this question? Why are you asking me to tell you the meaning of life, the purpose of life? What do we mean by life? Does life have a meaning, a purpose? Is not living in itself its own purpose, its own meaning? Why do we want more?

克里希那穆提:现在你为什么问这个问题? 你为什么要我告诉你生命的意义,生命的意图? 我们所说的生命是什么意思?生命有意义,有意图吗? 难道它自身的生活不是它自己的意图,不是它自身的意义吗? 为什么我们想要更多?

Because we are so dissatisfied with our life, our life is so empty, so tawdry, so monotonous, doing the same thing over and over again, we want something more, something beyond that which we are doing. Since our everyday life is so empty, so dull, so meaningless, so boring, so intolerably stupid, we say life must have a fuller meaning and that is why you ask this question.

因为我们对自己的生命如此不满, 我们的生命是那么空虚,那么俗气,那么单调,一遍又一遍地做同样的事情, 我们想要更多的、超越我们正在做的事物。 因为我们每一天的生命是如此空虚,如此沉闷,如此毫无意义,如此无聊,如此愚蠢, 我们说生命必须有更完整的意义,这就是为什么你问这个问题。

Surely a man who is living richly, a man who sees things as they are and is content with what he has, is not confused; he is clear, therefore he does not ask what is the purpose of life. For him the very living is the beginning and the end.

可以肯定,一个活得丰富多彩的人, 一个看到事物本然,并对自己所拥有的东西感到满意的人,是没有困惑的; 他是清楚的,因此,他不问生命的意图是什么。 对他来说,生活就是新生和死亡。

Our difficulty is that, since our life is empty, we want to find a purpose to life and strive for it. Such a purpose of life can only be mere intellection, without any reality; when the purpose of life is pursued by a stupid, dull mind, by an empty heart, that purpose will also be empty. Therefore our purpose is how to make our life rich, not with money and all the rest of it but inwardly rich - which is not something cryptic.

cryptic ['kriptik] a. 神秘的, 含义模糊的, 隐藏的

我们的困难在于,既然我们的生命是空虚的,我们就想寻找生命的意图并为之奋斗。 这样一个生命的意图,只能是纯粹的智力,没有任何真实性; 当这个生命的意图被一个愚蠢的、迟钝的头脑,被一个空虚的心灵所追求时,那个意图也将是空洞的。 因此,我们的意图是如何使我们的生命丰富,不是利用金钱和其它所有的东西, 而是内在的丰富 —— 它不是什么神秘的东西。

When you say that the purpose of life is to be happy, the purpose of life is to find God, surely that desire to find God is an escape from life and your God is merely a thing that is known. You can only make your way towards an object which you know; if you build a staircase to the thing that you call God, surely that is not God.

当你说生命的意图是快乐,生命的目的是寻找上帝, 当然,寻找上帝的欲望是对生命的一种逃避,而你的上帝只是一种已知的东西。 你只能走向一个你所知道的对象; 如果你建造一个楼梯,通向你称之为上帝的那个东西,那肯定不是上帝。

Reality can be understood only in living, not in escape. When you seek a purpose of life, you are really escaping and not understanding what life is. Life is relationship, life is action in relationship; when I do not understand relationship, or when relationship is confused, then I seek a fuller meaning. Why are our lives so empty? Why are we so lonely, frustrated?

现实只能在生活中理解,而不能在逃避中。 当你寻求生命的一个目的时,你实际上是在逃避,没有理解生命是什么。 生命是关系,生命是关系中的行为; 当我不理解关系时,或者当关系混乱时,我就会寻求更完整的意义。 为什么我们的生活如此空虚?为什么我们如此孤独,沮丧?

Because we have never looked into ourselves and understood ourselves. We never admit to ourselves that this life is all we know and that it should therefore be understood fully and completely. We prefer to run away from ourselves and that is why we seek the purpose of life away from relationship.

因为我们从来没有审视过我们自己,理解过我们自己。 我们从不接受我们自己:这条命就是我们所知道的一切 因此,应该充分和完整地理解它。 我们宁愿从我们自己身上逃跑,这就是为什么我们远离关系,却去寻找生命的意图。

If we begin to understand action, which is our relationship with people, with property, with beliefs and ideas, then we will find that relationship itself brings its own reward.

如果我们开始理解行为, 也就是我们与人、与财产、与信仰和想法的关系, 那么我们会发现,关系本身会带来自己的回报。

You do not have to seek. It is like seeking love. Can you find love by seeking it? Love cannot be cultivated. You will find love only in relationship, not outside relationship, and it is because we have no love that we want a purpose of life. When there is love, which is its own eternity, then there is no search for God, because love is God.

你不必去寻求。它就像寻求爱。 你能通过寻求它找到爱吗? 爱是无法被培养的。 你只会在关系中找到爱,而不是在关系之外, 正是因为我们没有爱,我们才想要一个生命的意义。 当有爱,它是它自己的永恒,那么,就没有对上帝的搜索,因为爱就是上帝。

It is because our minds are full of technicalities and superstitious mutterings that our lives are so empty and that is why we seek a purpose beyond ourselves. To find life's purpose we must go through the door of ourselves; consciously or unconsciously we avoid facing things as they are in themselves and so we want God to open for us a door which is beyond. This question about the purpose of life is put only by those who do not love. Love can be found only in action, which is relationship.

因为我们的头脑充满了技术细节和迷信的喃喃自语 我们的生活是如此空虚,那就是为什么我们寻求一个超越我们自己的意图。 为了找到生命的意图,我们必须穿过我们自身的这扇门; 有意或无意地,我们避免面对事物自身的本质。 因此,我们希望上帝为我们打开一扇门,超越之门。 这个关于生命的意义的问题,只有那些没有爱的人才会提出。 要发现爱,只能在行为中,也就是在关系里。